weekend open thread – February 7-8, 2026

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This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand.

Here are the rules for the weekend posts.

Book recommendation of the week: Deadly Little Secrets: The Minister, His Mistress, and a Heartless Texas Murder, by Kathryn Casey. Not my usual fare, but I read a Texas Monthly article about the case and then read this in one sitting. A pastor murders his wife and nearly gets away with it — until her mom and aunts spend years pushing law enforcement to investigate him. (Amazon, Bookshop)

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open thread – February 6, 2026

It’s the Friday open thread!

The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers.

* If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer.

interviewer was upset I wouldn’t tell him whether I was married, my coworker comes to work high, and more

It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go…

1. My coworker comes to work high

I work in an animal care setting and overheard a coworker casually mention that they had taken an edible about an hour before the end of their shift. They said it didn’t fully hit them until the last few minutes of work, but during that time they were asked to help restrain a patient. They weren’t administering medication in this instance, but they were still performing tasks while impaired. They also mentioned that there have been a few times when they’ve come to work slightly under the influence.

I know some coworkers use substances on their own time, and our workplace doesn’t test or screen for this. I don’t have an issue with what people do off the clock, but using anything before or during a shift — especially in a role involving patient care — feels unsafe to me. At the same time, I don’t want to create problems for others or inadvertently push the workplace toward testing policies that impact everyone.

I’m not sure what the right step is. Should I say something, leave it alone, or approach the situation in another way?

This wouldn’t be the case with all jobs, but because of the nature of this one, it’s a serious safety issue — for the animals and for your coworkers. You need to say something. That would be true even if it had just happened once, but it’s even more urgent because they’re apparently doing it repeatedly.

Talk to your boss about what you heard. It sucks that you have to, but that’s on your coworker, not on you.

2. Interviewer was upset I wouldn’t tell him whether I was married

I’m a female physician. I had a call with a recruiter, and the second question he asked me was, “Are you married?” And then, “What kind of work do they do?” When I asked neutrally, “Oh, why do you ask?” he got very upset that I didn’t want to answer the question and said, “No one has ever done this (refused to answer) in my 25 years of recruiting.” I tried to smooth things over, but then he hung up on me.

Unfortunately I don’t know which organization he is representing and I think he may be the head of his recruiting group so I had no one to report his behavior to. This is unfortunately a question I get asked a lot, and just to avoid this kind of scenario I’ll answer, but I hate having to do that! Is there anything else I can say?

“Oh, why do you ask?” is the exact right response to this kind of question. It’s not illegal for them to ask (a common misconception), but it’s illegal for them to factor in your answer in any way so there’s no reason they need to ask, and it’s a good way to instantly make candidates uncomfortable.

One alternative is to answer what you think they’re really getting at, which in this case was probably something about whether you would be able to devote enough time and focus to the job. So for example, you could say, “Oh, I have great family support for my career, that’s never been an issue.” And if he responded to that by again asking if you were married, at that point I might say, “I’ve never been asked that in an interview before (even though you have) — why do you ask?”

But also, this particular recruiter sounds like a massive tool.

3. My boss says she wants to accommodate immunocompromised people, but won’t hold hybrid staff meetings

I work at a public institution of higher education. I’m immunocompromised, which my managers knows (although she does not know the exact condition). On the days I’m in-person at work (we all work a hybrid schedule), I consistently mask and am very careful about protecting my health. Our quarterly all-staff meetings have been hybrid for several years now, after being totally online during Covid. These have never been particularly fruitful meetings, neither informationally nor for team-building, though my manager wants to make them more useful.

At a meeting last year, she brought up the idea of making our next meeting in-person only. I mentioned that we have immunocompromised and medically vulnerable people on staff (I’m not the only one, but I have tenure and can more easily speak out) and suggested considering ways to make the meetings less risky — like at least making the winter meetings fully online. She asked to meet with me one-on-one to discuss ideas for making the meetings safer and I shared other ideas too, like holding our September and June meetings in a space with windows that open. We have two campus spaces like that where we’ve held all-staff meetings in the past so this doesn’t seem a huge ask.

My manager seems to have taken none of what I said to heart. Our September meeting was in-person only and was in a space where no windows or doors could be opened, though she did have a couple of HEPA filters in the space. But now she is proposing making our February meeting every year all-day and in-person only and making our fall and spring meetings half-day and hybrid. I’m at a loss as to why she would make the meeting during the height of flu and norovirus season in-person and why she asked for my suggestions in the first place if she was going to ignore them.

I know being immunocompromised is a real disability, but I feel like it’s treated like it isn’t because, unlike being a wheelchair user faced with a space only accessible by stairs, I physically can go to these meetings. It’s just at tremendous risk to my health. And I have some colleagues who go to work sick all the time, which makes it even more risky. I’ve already brought this up in meetings with others present and in that one-on-one meeting and it clearly had no effect. Should I just tell her I can’t attend? Talk to HR, which is notoriously unhelpful and their ADA coordinator left last spring? Keep pushing back? I’m already dealing with an illness that gets worse when I’m stressed and I wonder if it’s easier to just take a sick day and skip the meeting to avoid the whole thing. I feel so demoralized at this point.

At a minimum, tell her you can’t attend. Sample language: “I can’t safely attend an all-day in-person meeting, so would it be better for me to call in or skip this one?”

But you could also say, “I know you’d asked for ideas to make these safer for immunocompromised employees, and one thing would be — if one of these has to be full-day and in-person — to make it the fall or spring one, not the February one, since that’s the height of flu season.”

Or even: “I know you’d asked for ideas to make these safer for immunocompromised employees, and I’m curious if you ran into obstacles doing that. I might be able to better tailor ideas if I know more about the constraints we need to work within.”

4. I was laid off and still have my laptop — is there a point where it becomes mine?

I got laid off mid-November, and HR said we’d receive instructions for returning our equipment. While my company access was cut off, and my laptop was remotely wiped, it’s now mid-January and I haven’t heard anything about returning it. I emailed last week asking, and haven’t gotten a response. I live near an office, but the implication during layoffs was that they don’t want laid off employees coming back to the building, understandably.

Is there a point at which the equipment is mine? I’ve seen some advice that at some point you’re within your rights to notify the company that you’ll be disposing of the equipment if you don’t hear from them in X amount of time, but what if you wanted to use it instead of dispose of it?

First, try calling them instead of emailing — just on the principle that if one method of communication doesn’t work, you should try a second method before giving up.

But if you still don’t get a response, contact them and say, “I have not heard back from you about how to return my equipment, despite asking on (date) and (date), so this is notice that I plan to dispose of the equipment unless you arrange otherwise by (date).” If you really want to be safe, you can send that by certified mail. In most jurisdictions, 30-60 days will be considered a reasonable window to offer, and after that you are free to dispose of the equipment as you wish (which you don’t need to volunteer will mean “now it’s for personal use”).

can I ask for feedback on why I was rejected without an interview?

A reader writes:

Do you have any guidance on asking for feedback on a job application when you weren’t selected for an interview? I’m aware that I’m unlikely to get a candid answer and perhaps some of my frustration is borne out of feeling like I’m continually applying for jobs where I meet all of the criteria, and can provide examples, but not really getting anywhere.

You can try, but you’re unlikely to get substantive feedback. You’re more likely to get someone willing to give you feedback after an interview because at that point they’ve talked with you one-on-one and there’s more of a connection. Even then, a lot of managers won’t give you any truly meaningful feedback (and sometimes understandably so). Getting it when you haven’t been interviewed is much harder.

Partly that’s because so often the decision came down to “your application was fine but we had a ton of applicants and others were just stronger.” And partly it’s because if the issue was a weakness in your resume or cover letter, most hiring managers won’t want to get into that kind of feedback with someone they don’t even know. You’re most likely to get it if the answer is something very straightforward like “we’re looking for five years of experience with X and you only have one” — but that’s also the kind of thing you don’t generally need them to tell you if their job posting was detailed enough. And even then, they still might not take the time to say it because replying to rejected candidates isn’t usually a high priority relative to other things the hiring manager is juggling.

You’re better off asking for feedback from people in your network who work in your field at a more senior level. Ask if they’d be willing to look over your application materials and see if they spot ways you can strengthen them. Those are people who already have a connection with you, so they’re more likely to offer something helpful.

Also — if this doesn’t apply to you I apologize, but more than 95% of the time when someone tells me they’re having trouble getting interviews and I ask to see their resume and cover letter, they haven’t done the stuff I’ve listed here (even when they tell me they’ve read it). So that’s one place you could start.

3 recent success stories from readers

Here are three recent success stories submitted by readers.

1. A successful raise request

I wanted to share that I used your advice for asking for a raise to successfully increase my salary. I presented salary surveys from nonprofit industry groups and local job postings for similar positions that showed my old salary was low compared to current listings in my metro area. In the end, I received a 9% raise, which I feel pretty good about. It isn’t as much as I hoped, but my supervisor did acknowledge it was the most they could give me at this time and that at first the proposed raise from HR was 6%.

2. A successful salary negotiation

This is not me but my Gen Z daughter. She works in a field that is renown for contract work — and she just recently was able to secure a full-time, benefitted position in a field she loves. They offered her $X, which she was over the moon for, having been considerably underpaid in a prior teaching job. Figuring she might be able to eke out a bit more, she called her cousin (who worked in the field) and a career coach who has been wonderful at providing some pro bono assistance, and then called the hiring manager. She asked if there was any wiggle room in the salary. The hiring manager asked her what she was thinking and so she provided a range. The hiring manager replied with, “How about $Y?” This was higher than the range she had named and 12% higher than what she was initially offered. Now she’s really over the moon. It makes one wonder if there was even more wiggle room in that number, but that’s okay. She is going to be doing something she loves and is also now not afraid of asking for what she wants. It confirms the saying that you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.

3. A successful skip-level meeting

I changed roles in my organization in October. In December, the CIO sent a divisional all-hands email inviting all new joiners to a morning tea for welcome and networking.

I wasn’t able to attend due to a preexisting health appointment. I emailed the CIO’s PA to apologize for missing it, and I channelled my inner-AAM hard: “I’d hoped to introduce myself to [CIO] as I know they were tracking a major incident two weeks ago that I was the technical lead for resolving.”

The PA replied that the CIO would like to meet with me and offered a 15-minute slot in January.

Because I’m in a large international organization, the CIO is my skip-level’s skip-level. In preparation, I read everything you’ve ever advised your readers about making the most of a skip-level meeting.

I had a good — and fast! 90 seconds! — answer ready to “Tell me about what you do here and what you did before.”

I asked them if they were curious about a ground-level view of the incident. They said no, in a friendly way, so I instantly pivoted to, “What’s front of mind for you for this quarter and this year?”

They spent 10 minutes on five major initiatives and paused each time to invite comment. I correctly read the room and gave one or at most two sentences for each. I hit the jackpot with one, where the CIO paused and said, “Interesting that you saw that right away. Most of my team didn’t.”

We finished in 13 minutes, and they congratulated me for “knowing how to speak with a CIO”. :) They also gave me two names of people who report to them that they wanted me to meet.

Will anything come of it? Who knows? I don’t even really care — it was great practice, and I couldn’t have done it without your excellent advice. Thank you!

how do people in high-conflict jobs protect their mental health?

It’s the Thursday “ask the readers” question. A reader writes:

I work in a pretty calm office environment where I rarely deal with confrontation. Lately I’ve been wondering how people in more volatile or high-stress roles take care of themselves (e.g., law enforcement, corrections, emergency response, or even customer service and call centers).

How do people who face frequent conflict or hostility at work manage their stress and protect their mental health over time? I’d love to hear from readers who’ve figured out ways to stay grounded and healthy in those environments, and also what draws them to that kind of work.

Readers in high-conflict roles, please weigh in!

bullying coworkers wouldn’t let me speak at a meeting, I heard something alarming about a coworker, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. My bullying coworkers wouldn’t let me speak at a meeting

This happened many years ago, but I keep replaying it in my head and wondering what I should have done.

At that time, I was working in a very small department in a small nonprofit. There were four of us in the department, three faculty (me, Marc, and Terry) and a director, Linda. We were having our weekly meeting (overkill, in my opinion) with some reps from other departments, and a couple grad students. Maybe eight people total.

Linda despised me and made no bones about it, and the overall situation was extremely toxic. I’d been tolerating Linda’s abuse for about four years at that point and was very miserable and looking to escape. She delighted in making me look bad in front of everyone possible, including students.

At this particular meeting, towards the end, there was something I wanted to comment on. I forget the topic, but it wasn’t a huge deal. For the next 5-10 minutes, every time I opened my mouth, Terry would interrupt with a comment. The first couple of times, okay, coincidence. And then it became extremely obvious that Terry was deliberately interrupting to prevent me from speaking. I looked up and Linda was openly giggling at Terry’s antics. This went on for quite a while, with Terry saying increasingly inane things every time I opened my mouth and the rest of the group giggling. At one point, I yelled, “Does anyone want to hear what I have to say?!” and Linda responded, while laughing, “We don’t know, we haven’t heard it yet.”

In my fantasies, this is where I storm out and slam the door, saying something like, “When you want my input, let me know and I’ll start attending these meeting again. Otherwise, I don’t see any point in being here.” Needless to say, that’s not what I actually did. In real life, I gritted my teeth, waited until Terry was bored being the funny guy, and interpolated my comment, which was an almost completely irrelevant after that much time wasted by Terry being a jerk.

I got laid off from that job about three months later and found a new one six months after that. It took about a year at my new, non-dysfunctional workplace before I was comfortable speaking in meetings. I have no contact with any of those jerks anymore, but this situation pops up in my head from time to time, wishing I had pushed back or done more to stand up for myself. Realistically, that wouldn’t have helped my situation at all but might have made me feel better.

What would have been the best response at the time?

First and foremost, there was no “good” response in this situation because there was no winning.

The way you handled it was reasonable. It also would have been reasonable to just give up on speaking at that particular moment, since they were being such pains in the ass. Either was reasonable.

What wasn’t reasonable was them and there’s no magical response that forces unreasonable people to become reasonable.

What you were dealing with there sounds much, much bigger than what happened at this one meeting. I suspect you’re focusing on the meeting — even now, years later — because it encapsulated their disrespect and rudeness, and there’s something about that particular instance that you feel like you should have handled better.

But they were just jerks. They were jerks before this meeting, I assume they were jerks after this meeting, and there was nothing you could do that would have changed that.

2. Should I tell my boss something alarming I heard about a coworker?

I work as an instructor for a niche sport, which can be dangerous if people aren’t following safety rules. We mostly work with school groups, so the majority of our students have little to no experience with our sport, making safety even more important.

Today we had a large school group with a language barrier, so things were kinda chaotic, and we had an unusually large number of kids being wildly unsafe, and it’s a miracle we got through the day without any serious injuries. A lot of this was kids who were done with their lessons and immediately attempted to do things that were wildly above their skill level … but there was a few incidents of instructors having their classes try things they weren’t at all ready for.

Afterwards, a few of us were discussing the whole mess in the break room, and some support staff raised concerns about one instructor in particular, who is apparently a repeat offender with this sort of thing. They said John typically gives his classes very little instruction, takes them to do more challenging things, and then gets angry with the kids for not knowing what they’re doing. John’s attitude with the kids is bad enough that the support staff raised concerns about it counting as emotional abuse, not to mention that his lack of instruction and poor judgement is endangering the kids.

This is obviously very alarming. Only problem is, my only source is that small handful of support workers I talked with today. This is John’s first year with us and we’re still early in the season, so he hasn’t been teaching with us for very long, although he’s not new to the industry. None of the instructors have personally witnessed any bad behavior from John, but we’re usually focused on our own classes; the support team are in a much better position to spot alarming patterns, but they’re a different department and they don’t feel they can raise any official concerns.

Should I alert my boss to the situation? I’m on the fence, because it’s just unsubstantiated gossip that might not be accurate (the support staff weren’t even sure who the offender even was; they just kept giving details until we narrowed it down to John), and I don’t like the idea of sharing harmful rumors, especially since I’m only on my second year here. But if the complaints are accurate, then the situation needs to be handled immediately, because John’s conduct is endangering his students (and making them miserable). Help?

You should talk to your boss. You’re not going to be spreading unsubstantiated gossip; you’re going to be alerting the appropriate person to a potentially serious safety issue. You’re not going to claim that you know all of this firsthand; you can say, “I can’t attest to this myself because I haven’t seen it, but I want to pass on to you what I heard since it’s potentially so serious.” Your manager can sort it out from there.

3. Can I ethically encourage succession planning in the current state of things?

I still have a few years to go, but I’m starting to consider retirement. I have a millennial staff member who would be a logical choice to move up to my role when the time comes. Our employer is great about supporting continuing education and certification within our field.

My dilemma is that my field, like many others, is taking a beating by the current administration. I’m honestly unsure of what it will look like by the time this is over and somewhat doubtful it will fully recover. Much of our field is being courted overseas where the environment is still welcoming and the regulations are very different. While we have to do our jobs to the best of our ability in the interim, I question whether it’s a sustainable career trajectory for a young person who will be in the workforce for another 30 years.

This leaves me uncertain about how much to push my young staff. They can do their current jobs well enough, but there’s a lot of extra work to move up to my level. That said, it’s a niche field and people tend to stay once they land here. I would need to be pushing them starting soon so they had the right experience, but there might not be much of a role when the time comes.

I would appreciate your thoughts on the best way to move forward.

Honesty! Tell them exactly what you said here — you think they’d be a great choice to succeed you, which would entail them needing to do XYZ over the next couple of years, and you question whether it it’s still a sustainable long-term career trajectory, and explain why you think that. Lay it all out and let them decide if it’s something they want to pursue; don’t make that choice for them.

4. I’m about to be assigned an old-school manager who I don’t want to work for

My organization restructured, and my reporting line is changing. We work primarily on a project basis, so there are two people I work with very regularly who I could theoretically report to, but one is the most frequent. My concern is that this person is very old-school in their attitude about PTO and promotions. For example, they complain when people take a lot of PTO in December (so they don’t lose it). They believe that an employee shouldn’t be promoted to the senior manager level and stay at that level for several years — they should only be promoted to that level when it’s clear they’re poised to be ready to go up for partner within 2-3 years. They also frequently work on vacation and holidays; they don’t ask others to do so, but they often comment that that’s part of the job at that level.

The pressures that this person is responding to are real. However, this person’s peers do not all say the same things or behave this way. I see examples of other people who have different boundaries and priorities, while also appropriately meeting client needs.

I’m about to be asked to report to this person. Folks in the organization are acting like they’re running it by me, but I don’t feel like it’s something I actually have any say in. I really like my job and working with this person, but I’m super worried that reporting to them will change how I feel about my job. I know who I’d prefer to report to, but I’m not sure they have capacity to take on a new person. Is there anything I can do or say in this initial meeting where HR asks me / tells me this is the plan? I really love working with them, but I’m so terrified that reporting to them will change things.

Talk to HR now, before the conversation where they’re telling you about an already-finalized plan! Frame it this way: “I enjoy working with Jane, but would it be possible for me to report to Cressida, who I also work closely with? Cressida has a work style that matches my own very well and I think we would have a strong reporting relationship.”

You might also talk with Cressida now and ask if she can help you make that happen.

5. Should my husband keep applying at my workplace?

This one is on behalf of my husband. We’re both working in an industry that is going through a lot of instability right now. My job is at a company that is one of the best and most prestigious globally, and I’m pretty secure in my position. His workplace is much more shaky; he already survived multiple rounds of layoffs, but who knows when his luck will run out.

In the past few months, my company has posted a few roles that I believe he would do well in. However, all positions here are highly competitive; the recruiters get hundreds of applications. He applied for two positions and was rejected at the screening stage. There is now a job number three. He thinks applying again would be seen as desperate and the recruiter won’t take him seriously, and that he should at least wait a year before another application. I kind of see his point, but I also know that he very much lacks confidence in himself and he finds the whole looking for a job process very stressful. So what do you think? Does it look bad to apply again, or should he go for it and see what happens?

As long as it’s a reasonably large company, he should keep applying. This is normal at large companies with highly competitive roles; it won’t reflect badly on him unless he’s submitting an identical application and not changing anything about it. The first two didn’t get him an interview, so he should look at ways to strengthen any future ones (whether that’s a more targeted cover letter or a resume that better plays up his accomplishments).

One caution: having both spouses working for the same company can be risky, especially in an unstable industry; if they make cuts, you risk both of you losing your jobs at the same time. But I assume you’ve factored that in!

is showing up in person with a resume actually a thing now?

A reader writes:

My brother (Gen Z/millennial cusp) has been out of work (and stuck living back home with my parents) for a while now, and everyone is understandably frustrated with the situation.

A couple times my mom (boomer) and I (millennial) have been one-on-one and she’s brought up the situation, and she’s said that she has told my brother to just “go show up in person to places you’d like to get a job at and try to hand in your resume!”

Every single one of my millennial instincts is screaming NO NO NO, this is CLASSIC out-of-touch boomer advice from when we were trying to get jobs during the Great Recession. I told my mom that yeah, that doesn’t really work now since it’s not the 1980s, and since it’s literally the classic example of out-of-touch boomers with the job hunt, my brother is probably going to then ignore every other piece of advice you give him.

However, my mom’s response was yes, she knows all of that, but she heard recently (like this year) on the news that going in person to hand in your resume out of the blue is actually a good thing now, since it’ll get your resume directly in front of a human and help you avoid the AI filter bots. And she claimed she has a friend whose daughter got her most recent job this way!

Every millennial instinct of mine screams NOPE DISREGARD when I hear this touted as job hunt advice, but I know that the AI filters are so impossible to get past now. Is there actually some merit to it? Has everything I thought I knew about job searching changed in the nine years since I last interviewed?

It is still not a thing.

First, they’re highly likely to just tell you that you need to apply online … because you do in fact need to apply online. As has been the case for a long time now, most organizations use electronic applicant tracking systems. If your application isn’t in there, it’s not getting considered.

Second, with the rise in remote work, a ton of people don’t even work at companies’ main addresses anymore. There may not be anyone involved in hiring for the position even physically there. And even if they’re there, they’re generally going to be very busy and aren’t going to come out and talk to you just because you randomly showed up holding a resume — so anyone you do talk to is incredibly unlikely to have anything to do with hiring for that particular job.

Third, it will still annoy the crap out of most people involved in hiring and make you look naive/out of touch at best … and at worst, like you don’t think instructions apply to you. Their instructions are there for a reason.

You will always hear stories about how one weird job search gimmick worked for someone, but more often than not they’re a bad idea (and the amount of time your brother would put into going door to door with his resume would be far more effective put into networking, or writing a better cover letter, or other things with a bigger pay-off).

my coworker wants to fire a domestic violence survivor

A reader writes:

Our company works in a building that houses multiple businesses. We share reception and security.

Recently, there was a terrible incident where the ex-boyfriend of one of my employees, Sarah, got into the building by booking a job interview with a different company. He then made a beeline for our office instead, and made a huge scene shouting at Sarah, and even tried to hit her in front of all of us.

Thankfully, security tackled him before he could hurt anyone, and he’s been arrested. We had a security meeting with reception and the other business managers in the building and have agreed to a shared appointment calendar and other precautions to prevent this from happening in the future. I’ve done my best to support Sarah with what she needs to feel safe here, and she seems to be doing well.

The problem is Fred, the other manager in my office. About a week after this incident, I was giving him an update on the steps we were taking in case this man is released and causes further problems. Fred was clearly annoyed and asked me why I didn’t just “solve” the problem by firing Sarah. He went on to claim that Sarah was being unprofessional by “allowing her personal life in the office” and that we were going to a lot of trouble for “just one employee.”

This is not the first time he’s said something insensitive about our employees, but this was by far the most egregious comment. I told him that Sarah had done nothing wrong, and that it was our job to provide a safe work environment. He rolled his eyes and visibly tuned out for the rest of the meeting.

He hasn’t said anything else since that meeting. But I find it increasingly hard to work with him. I’ve been defaulting to email to communicate with him, even though his office is right next to mine, because I feel gross being in the same room with him. I especially feel icky when I see him chatting in a friendly way to Sarah, knowing what he thinks about the situation. It’s bad enough that I briefly considered looking for a new job, but that would mean Fred would temporarily be in charge of my reports. I’m worried he would actually fire Sarah if he could.

How do I address this? I don’t feel like it would be appropriate for me to pull him aside and tell him what I think of his reaction, but I also feel like I’m dropping the ball by not the challenging what he said more directly. Is simply avoiding him as much as possible the most I can do here?

I answer this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.

my company says no one can take any time off for a full year

A reader writes:

I work in healthcare IT. Recently, our organization made the decision to switch to a new Electronic Medical Record (EMR) system. I, along with dozens of colleagues, are responsible for building this new EMR to meet our organization’s needs. It’s a months-long process that involves lots of coordinated decision-making across the entire organization. The tentative go-live date for this new system is well over a year from now.

Our leadership is telling the entire IT department that no PTO requests will be approved during this time.

None of this has been communicated to the department en masse, but it has trickled down to managers, who then relay it to their respective teams. The message from my manager has been, “No PTO will be approved.”

When I asked about booking a vacation this summer, the response was, “The go-live date is [specific 2027 date].”

Since then, I’ve confirmed that no PTO means no PTO. They’ve said they might be able to grant a day off here or there, depending on project needs. But those decisions would only be made closer to the dates we would want to take off.

I have a spouse and small children. The thought of zero vacation for over a year seems really awful to me.

(I do think this is only about vacation and not sick time. I don’t think they’re saying if we get sick that we can’t take time off. And we are salaried, so we have been told that we can generally flex our schedules to go to one-off appointments without using PTO. But PTO for vacations is a no-go. )

Many folks in our department are quietly seething, but it doesn’t seem like anyone is willing to bring it up in a large group.

Is this something that my company can do? PTO is a part of our compensation package, and we accrue leave every pay period. I am new to this organization, so it’s entirely possible that I am way off-base in thinking that this is a bizarre policy.

No, this is absurd.

The idea that people should work a full year through with no time off to recharge is ridiculous.

And no one can attend a family wedding? A funeral? Be at the birth of their grandchild? All trips of any sort for the year are off the table?

Legally, in most states, they can probably do it. California is the exception to that, because California treats vacation time as earned wages and prohibits extreme black-out periods that prevent you from having practical access to the time off.

Assuming you’re not in California, the best thing you and your coworkers can do is to push back as a group, pointing out that this is an unacceptable restriction on your use of earned benefits and a massive hit to very routine quality-of-life expectations, that you have lives and commitments outside of work, and that it’s in the organization’s best interest to have well-rested and recharged employees.

You said no one seems willing to do that, but why? This is an incredibly normal thing for a group of employees to take issue with and push back on … and if you don’t, you’re going to be stuck with no vacation for a year. Create some friction for your company and make it harder for them to do this. There’s a very good chance that if you push back as a group, they’ll budge.