weekend open thread – May 9-10, 2026

Wallace and Stella

This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand.

Here are the rules for the weekend posts.

Book recommendation of the week: The Hazelbourne Ladies Motorcycle and Flying Club, by Helen Simonson. Kicked out of her job after the men returned from World War I, a penniless woman working as a lady’s companion encounters a women’s’ motorcycle club and a changing world. Very charming, as all of her books are. (Amazon, Bookshop)

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open thread – May 8, 2026

It’s the Friday open thread!

The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers.

* If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer.

our exit interviews are emailed to all managers, how to ask about AI use in a job interview, and more

It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go…

1. Our exit interviews are emailed to all managers

I work for a small company with a one-person HR team. When a team member leaves the company by choice, the HR person conducts an exit interview. The transcription of the interview is then emailed to the entire management layer of the company — about a third of the company headcount — without any edits or redactions. Details of personal circumstances, raw feedback about supervisors or coworkers, all of it just out there in the open with names attached.

Many of us middle managers are horrified by this practice and object both on privacy grounds and because there is no clear indication that anything is being done to catalogue, analyze, or respond to the feedback provided in the exit interviews. What are the best practices around exit interviews, and how would you recommend middle management at my company press for something better?

Yeah, this is weird and a bad practice.

You don’t blast out raw exit interviews to a third of the company. I doubt the people who gave that feedback in their exit interviews would appreciate it being used that way — and if word gets out that that’s how they’re handled, exiting employees are going to start being way less candid.

Someone needs to be charged with assessing and synthesizing the info from exit interviews and identifying trends and areas for further evaluation or change; without that, there’s very little point to doing them at al.. Then, that should be shared with whoever has an actual need to know — generally HR and people in the management chain for whatever issues came up, not just “everyone gets to see all of it, all the time, regardless of relevance to them.” Often HR will share trends with the organization’s leadership quarterly, while addressing individual issues as they come up (such a manager needs more management training or a potential legal concern). But the best practice is to keep things as confidential as possible so that feedback can’t be connected with an individual person unless that’s unavoidable to get a problem addressed.

The way it’s being handled now is almost gossip-adjacent, rather than something being used constructively.

You and the other managers who are concerned should ask how the feedback is assessed and used beyond the email blasts you see, and then share the concerns above and propose more targeted use of the information. If you have some examples of sensitive issues that were shared far more widely than they needed to be, mention those and ask for the reasoning in doing that.

Here’s a decent article you could share on how employers can assess the data from exit interviews.

Related:
should I tell the truth in my exit interview?

2. How can I ask about AI use in a job interview?

I’ve started looking for another job for many reasons, but chief among them is my company’s increasing push for everyone to use AI (it’s gone from “this is a helpful tool to use as needed” to “we expect you to use this as much as possible” alarmingly fast). No judgment to those who use AI when needed but I personally try to limit my use as much as possible due to the environmental implications (and a small fear that I may one day be replaced with a robot).

What is the best way to ask a new company about how they’re using AI while you’re interviewing, both for the specific role and company- wide? In case it’s helpful context, I work in an admin/support role.

You can ask pretty directly: “I know AI is changing the way a lot of offices operate. Is it having an impact on the work of this role, and in the company more broadly?”

But the problem is exactly what you saw at the company you’re trying to leave: it can go from “this is a helpful tool to use as needed” to “we expect you to use this as much as possible” alarmingly fast. So the answer you get in an interview might not still be the case a couple of months from now.

You can still ask! You’d just want to be aware that that’s the case.

3. Do employers really distinguish between part-time and full-time work for years of experience?

Have you ever known employers to distinguish between part-time and full-time when checking experience requirements? I’ve never been asked this, but one of my part-time contracting gigs was disproportionately valuable in accruing apparent experience when life didn’t allow me to go full-time. So four years at 10 hours a month counts as four years of experience.

Rather than dropping out entirely to raise kids / go back to school / do a medical thing, why do more workers not just scale way back? (Or do they?)

Yes, some employers do distinguish between part-time and full-time work when they’re calculating how much experience you have, but it depends very much on the role, the type of experience, and how part-time you were — as well as whether they even know it was part-time because they might not.

I wouldn’t count 10 hours a month for four years as being the equivalent of four years of experience, but I’m also not deeply invested in calculating years of experience for most jobs; I’m more interested in your overall expertise. Years of experience can be a decent stand-in for that to some degree, but not the extent that I’d prioritize it over things like how deep your subject knowledge expertise is, the range of challenges you fielded / got exposed to during that time, and what you actually achieved in that time period. Someone could work 40 hours a week for 10 years and still not be better at the work than someone really talented who worked half-time for three years.

To the extent that employers are deeply focused on years of experience as an early-stage screening tool, you mainly see it with more junior-level jobs. A job that says they want two years of experience is communicating something about the general profile of candidate they’re seeking and that it’s not a new grad who interned for four hours a week for their last two years of college.

As to why more people don’t scale way back rather than dropping out of the workforce entirely when they have other things going on: one large reason is because there aren’t nearly as many part-time professional jobs available as people who would likely want them (particularly when you narrow it to their specific field).

Related:
how to calculate how much work experience you have

4. Does the Equal Pay Act apply if you’re both women?

My coworker recently referred her friend to a job opening on our team, and she was hired. As friends do, they compared their compensation numbers and found that the new hire was going to be paid more. They will have the same title and the same responsibilities. My coworker then went to her manager to address this discrepancy and was told that her compensation would not be brought up to match the new hire’s. I know this would be a legal issue if a man was being paid more for the same job, but since the issue is between two women, does the Equal Pay Act still apply? Does my coworker have any recourse to this obvious unfairness?

The Equal Pay Act only prohibits paying men and women differently for the same work; it does not apply if the differently paid employees are the same sex. That’s because the law’s goal isn’t salary parity in general; it’s specifically about sex discrimination.

So your coworker doesn’t have legal recourse, but she can still make the case for a raise based on her own performance and the new info she has now about the value of the work to the company. That said, she should also look at whether there might be legitimate reasons for her friend to be bought in at a higher salary, like a different or more advanced skill set, more experience, different education, stronger track record of achievement previously, etc.

how should I handle an openly hostile job interviewer?

A reader writes:

I’m returning to the job-searching arena after several years and will be interviewing over the next few weeks.

A few years ago, I was interviewed by a panel who were quite hostile and clearly not impressed with my resume or my responses. Up until that point, I’d never come across any interviewer who was aggressive, disrespectful, or rude, so the nastiness directed my way was unexpected:

• belittling of my resume
• verbal expressions of frustration at my lack of specific experience (and then giving me a nasty look)
• patronizing remarks made about my responses to questions
• aggressive facial expressions, no smiles, and no basic civilities (not even hello, just a curt instruction to “sit down!”
• questions being asked in a hostile tone with a patronizing remark at the end
• I think I was told at one point, “You aren’t very good, are you?”
• Practically throwing a resume at me for me to refer to during the interview
• Eye-rolling and groaning at my responses

All of the above sounds like something from a movie, but it really happened.

Surprisingly, I was offered the job, and as I had few choices at the time, I accepted it. I think I lasted about eight weeks before leaving for a better opportunity.

If I were to be interviewed by a hostile, aggressive interviewer again, what is some wording I can use to quickly take myself out of the running and leave the interview with my dignity intact? Since my prior experience taught me that a hostile interviewer is indicative of employer culture, I’d rather give them a wide berth.

If an interviewer is just a little unpleasant but not openly hostile, much of the time it makes sense to stay and finish the conversation — since who knows, you might want to apply again there in the future for a job with a different manager and ideally you’d preserve the relationship with the employer generally (even if you’d never work for this manager).

But if an interviewer is openly hostile, you’re not required to just sit there and take it. If someone is flagrantly rude or antagonistic, there’s no reason you can’t say, “As we’re talking, I’m realizing this job isn’t quite what I’m looking for, and I don’t want to take up more of your time. I appreciate you talking with me, and I wish you the best in filling the role.”

If you think you’d have a tough time saying this, it helps to remember that your interviewer isn’t in charge of you — which I say because the power dynamics of interviews can make people forget that. While it’s true that the interviewer is deciding whether or not they want to offer you the job, that assessment is a two-way street: you are also deciding whether or not you’d want to work with them. You aren’t a supplicant waiting for them to bestow their blessing on you. Particularly once you’ve decided that you don’t want the job, you are peers in a business conversation, and you are allowed to decide to wrap up and leave. In fact, I’d argue the best interviews always feel like peers in a business conversation and that’s not a shift that should only come about after you’ve decided you don’t want the job.

Interview conventions tend to steer candidates away from feeling they can cut an interview short but you absolutely can, the same way an interviewer could also decide to do that if a you were clearly not the right match.

If you ever need to want to end an interview early and you’re worried about how your interviewer will react, it can help to put yourself in the headspace of other types of business meetings and how you would handle those: for example, if a prospective vendor was rude in a meeting, you’d probably have a much easier time ending the conversation. The power dynamics are different in interviews — but they’re not so different that you have to tolerate abuse.

things I like

Years ago, I used to do occasional round-ups of things I like, just for fun. I haven’t done one in years, so here’s a new one.

1. Alyssa Limperis’s mom videos. Hilarious.

2. Riki Lindhome’s take on So Long Farewell from the Sound of Music. Also hilarious.

3. Catalog Choice. They unsubscribe you from catalogs and I love them.

4. This chicken and her kittens.

5. The charity Undue Medical Debt, which buys and erases the medical debt of people who can’t afford to pay it.

6. This illustrator.

7. The Bloggess’s mortification series.

8. Alley Cat Allies, which is an excellent charity helping cats without homes.

Feel free to share your own random sources of joy in the comments.

how can I get to know coworkers better when we’re remote?

It’s the Thursday “ask the readers” question. A reader writes:

I have been with my current employer for 20 years. We have been fully remote since 2020, though we do have in person meetings roughly once a quarter. And I travel for business frequently so also often spend times with colleagues this way. I have very close friends at my current role, but that is a reflection of my long-term tenure and the old days of lunch in the cafeteria and chats by the photocopier.

I’m starting a senior manager level position next month at a new company and I’m looking for advice on how to develop relationships with coworkers. I will lead high profile cross-functional projects and will need to have strong relationships with various teams (marketing, sales, product, etc.). And on top of that, I know I will be more successful if I have coworkers who I can call work friends, and I know I will enjoy my work environment if I have friendly relationships with coworkers. I’m not looking for friends to hang out with outside of work or looking for a new bestie, just colleagues I can chat with socially sometimes during the work week here and there.

I don’t know if that is a realistic expectation in this WFH world. I know there are many who prefer not to be social at work and that’s totally fine — I wouldn’t want to intrude. I just want to be able to say, “Hey Susie, how are the kids?” or “Hey Susie, how did your last marathon go?” The idea of not having a friendly chat once in a while seems so isolating.

In my current role, I have found that new joiners struggle because they feel very isolated not knowing anyone very well and feel like they are an outsider because there are others at our work that know each other very well. I worry this will be the case me.

Any advice on how to fit in (or reality check that I’m expecting too much)?

You aren’t expecting too much. Lots of us want to have warm, friendly relationships with colleagues and be able to talk about things besides work. Readers, what’s your advice?

I don’t want gifts at work, employee doesn’t wash his hands, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. I don’t want employees to give me gifts

I’ve just switched employers and am now heading up a company’s legal division. I value your advice to gift down, not up, but do you have any scripts on how and when to communicate this expectation to subordinates? I don’t want to sound like, “Listen up, peons! Spare me your humble offerings.” Nor do I want to say it so early that it feels like I was expecting them to shower gifts at my feet if I didn’t say something. And if someone ignores me and gives me a gift anyway, how should I handle that? I’m working remotely for a region of the country that’s very different culturally from my own, and I don’t want to inadvertently insult people or harm relationships with my excellent team in a place where gifting seems to be a part of the culture. For what it’s worth, I’m coming from government, where no-gifting-up expectations are clearly set in policy.

Are you mostly worried about this happening with year-end holiday gifts? If so, speak up in late November or early December and say something like, “This is the time of year when people think about holiday gifts, so I want to say up-front that just doing your jobs well is enough of a gift for me. Please spend your money on your family or yourself, and know that I’m grateful to have each of you on our team.” (It’s less weird if you can say this in the context of some other holiday-related announcement, so that it’s not its own stand-alone declaration.)

If you’re seeing a culture around things like birthday gifts, talk to whoever seems to organize them and explain that you don’t want them to organize something for you — and it’s okay to explicitly say, “I feel strongly that no one should feel even minor pressure to buy a gift for anyone in their chain of command.”

But if you do receive a gift from an employee despite this, it’s okay to accept it graciously as long as it’s not extravagantly expensive. You don’t want to make anyone feel bad (which will happen if you refuse to accept a gift); you just want to ensure no one feels obligated to buy you presents. If it is extravagant, you can say, “This was very kind of you! I feel really strongly that managers shouldn’t accept gifts because it can lead to people feeling pressured to provide them — I know you didn’t, but I worry about creating that culture. So I’m going to give this back to you so you can give it a loved one or use it yourself. The only gift I need from you is your good work, and I already have that!”

Also, aside from gifts to you, be alert for signs that anyone might feel pressured to contribute to gifts for others. If gifting is a big part of this office’s culture, I can almost guarantee that there are people who would prefer to keep their money — and that they’d be grateful if you worked to shift that piece of the culture once you’re more settled in.

2. My employee doesn’t wash his hands after using the bathroom

I am the head of a small organization. I have two in-office employees. We do work in-office most days, and our office space has a bathroom. All of us can hear when the toilet flushes, sink is running, etc. One of my employees clearly does not wash his hands after using the restroom — he’s in there only briefly, and the toilet flushes mere seconds before he emerges from the bathroom. This is gross.

If I put up a “wash your hands” sign, it will be awkward, given there are only three of us here and we work closely together and a new sign would be very pointed and unusual. I’m not sure a sign would change the behavior anyway. Do I need to have a personal conversation with the employee about this (also awkward)? Do I need to resign myself to vigorous hand sanitizing and Lysol spraying? How do I get over the thought of touching the copier, the stapler, the doorknobs, after my employee has, while knowing what he previously touched?

I am sorry to deliver this news because it is gross, but a significant portion of the people walking in around in the world don’t wash their hands after using the bathroom, and you are touching things they have touched all the time when you’re out in public. Signs won’t stop it. You just need to know that’s how people are, and adjust your own behavior accordingly.

(It would be different if you were in food service; then you’d have an obligation to talk to him.)

3. Resumes that include info about gender identity or sexual orientation

This is admittedly, less of a question, and more of something I get concerned about as a manager reviewing resumes. I was advised by a peer to submit this to you in hopes that some hopeful applicants might see it and be more cautious.

I often have resumes from younger individuals that specifically advertise their gender identity or sexuality. While we are a progressive workplace, with many in-house accommodations and built-in support structures that allow team members to present as the gender and be open about the sexuality they are most comfortable with as they are comfortable expressing. That being said, we are located in a less progressive state, where it’s becoming increasingly fraught (while still illegal to discriminate against LGBTQ+ folk in the workplace).

It’s not my place to coach applicants who aren’t my staff, but I wish sometimes I could advise them to be a little more cautious about openly sharing this information — especially at a stage of the hiring process where a less scrupulous person could still choose to discard their resume under the guise of a more “acceptable” reason.

Most often, candidates who do this are doing it intentionally because they want to screen out employers and hiring managers where it’s more likely to be an issue. It’s a way to screen for inclusive workplaces. It’s not infallible, of course, but it’s better than doing no screening and hoping for the best.

4. How much notice should I give before retiring?

How much notice should I give before retiring? Is a standard two weeks enough?

For context, I just got a big promotion in December and I have been leading a newly formed team since January. I am only 54 so I think this move is going to be a surprise, and I feel bad about leaving the team at a formative time. I also have a great relationship with my boss and I hate to put her in a difficult position. But for a variety of reasons, I’ve determined that retiring in September is the right thing for me to do.

Given the circumstances, is it better to give my boss a heads-up well in advance, or should I just stick with the standard two weeks?

It comes down entirely to this: do you trust your boss and your employer not to push you out earlier than you want to leave? And if they did, how much of a problem would it be for you?

If you think that they’ll be grateful for early notice and won’t push you out earlier than September (or if you wouldn’t mind much if they did), go ahead and give them a couple of months of notice if you feel comfortable doing that. But if you don’t trust them on that, or if it would be disastrous if they did, stick with two weeks. You’d be giving two weeks for other types of departures, so it’s not a terrible crime to do that here too.

Keep in mind, too, that “push you out earlier than September” doesn’t have to mean something dramatic like they blow up and tell you to leave immediately. It can look more like initial gratitude for the heads-up, followed a few weeks later by, “We found the perfect replacement but she would need to start immediately so let’s set your end date for sooner” or, “Since we’re about to launch a bunch of new projects, it doesn’t make sense to have you start them and then leave soon after, so it makes more sense to move your ending date up.” I would be particularly concerned about those since you’re still pretty new in the position and, in their eyes, may still be getting acclimated to it.

Related:
how much notice should you give when you resign?

5. Interviewing in the third trimester of pregnancy

I’m currently job searching for a fall start date. Job searching in the spring for a fall start is normal in my industry, although some companies will make offers in March and others might not make offers until June. I find myself in a sticky situation with timelines, because I am in my third trimester of pregnancy, and due in six to eight weeks. I look pregnant, but most people who see me think I am five or maybe six months pregnant — so I seem earlier in the pregnancy than I am.

My current job is a one-year position ending in September, but I will be able to take my full maternity leave at this job. My plan is to return to it for one month before moving to a new job, should I land one. I have had some great first round virtual interviews, with two different kinds of responses — some companies want me to come in ASAP for in-person interviews, and some want to wait until late May or early June for in-person interviews (when I will likely be giving birth/freshly postpartum).

For companies that want to interview me ASAP, I am considering volunteering information during the interview about completing my leave at the current job and not needing a delayed start or maternity leave from the new job, because people may not realize that is my timeline based on my appearance. Is this a good idea? I know there is no way to avoid implicit bias now that I’m visibly pregnant, so I’m hoping to get ahead of the timeline concerns that may pop up. And for companies that seem inclined to take things slow, is there anything I can say without disclosing my pregnancy that would help them realize I cannot wait that long to interview? I did not say anything in the interviews when I was told this because I did not know how to respond, so I’m afraid I will now look panicked or unprofessional.

I’m fairly junior in my field and many women in the field choose to delay pregnancy for 5+ years beyond where I am to avoid being thought of as unserious. But I do love my career, I am incredibly serious about it, and it is my passion. I am afraid that my otherwise strong candidacy will be overlooked due to my pregnancy.

Yes, for the companies interviewing you in-person, it’s smart to share your plans and timeline because they’re going to be reluctant to ask (since they can’t legally factor your pregnancy into the hiring decision).

For the companies moving more slowly, since you know you won’t be able to interview in late May/early June, you might as well put it on the table now: share that you’re pregnant and when you’re due and that you’re planning to finish your leave before you’d be starting with them. They might not be willing or able to interview you any earlier, but they might.

the infiltrator, the borrowed research, and other people who were much too honest in job interviews

In the recent post on people applying for jobs that were clearly at odds with what they wanted to do, one theme that came up over and over was candidates who were way too honest in interviews. Here are 11 of my favorite stories you shared that fit that category.

1. The competition

A candidate once wrote in their cover letter that their dream was to one day work for [our competitor] and they saw us a an important stepping stone to getting there.

2. The mole

I was working for a very progressive Democratic candidate’s campaign, hiring a finance director. Someone with two decades of experience working in Republican offices applied. I decided to phone screen him just out of curiosity, and when I asked him why the switch to the other side of the aisle, he said his politics hadn’t changed – he just wanted the inside scoop on what we were working on.

3. The borrowed research

A presentation by an applicant for a faculty position in computer science began poorly when the fellow couldn’t get his slides to work. The candidacy really tanked when, following the research presentation, he answered a question about the material with, “Well, I don’t know. This isn’t actually my research, but I thought it was interesting.”

4. The wrong answer

I used to interview people for software quality engineering roles, as distinct from software engineering — different job responsibilities, different expectations, and it was always useful to make that clear right at the start to smoke out people who were just going to try to switch in six months.

I got on one interview call (at 2 am my time, mind you — global company), started right off with, “Why do you want to be a quality engineer?” and he responded “I don’t.”

Shortest interview I’ve ever done.

5. The aspiring film director

I was trying for my first career-type job out of college. I was recently graduated communications major with a concentration in film production and was interviewing to be an office manager at an advertising firm that did a lot of commercial shoots. The second person to come in the room to interview me asked, “So, describe your dream job to me.”

Friends, I did not know this was meant to be a “describe the job you’re applying for or maybe where you’d be in five years” question. I proceeded to talk at length about being a feature film director.

I did not get that job.

I also didn’t end up even getting into the film/TV industry, but I am all the happier for it.

6. The infiltrator

I work in entertainment. About 10 years ago, I was at a production company that prided itself on connecting with its fans and would take a meeting with pretty much anyone. One person we met with asked us for an internship and was very clear that he wanted to be part of the company because he was not a fan of our work. Our sub-genre was not his preferred sub-genre, and so he planned to infiltrate the company and take us down from the inside.

We explained that this wasn’t the way to get more of his preferred content made and wouldn’t be taking him on. He was shocked.

Years later, the company did go under, but not because of him.

7. The Francophile

My favorite cover letter I’ve ever reviewed was for a run-of-the-mill admin assistant temp position at a U.S.-based study abroad provider for college students. While there were other teams in the company that had lots of travel and excitement, this position was helping process application materials and answering phones. We tried to be up-front about this in our listing and our screening/interviews, as sometimes people would apply to “get a foot in the door” and then leave when they realized we needed them to commit to this very unexciting work.

We received an application with a two-page cover letter that read more like a personal essay than a professional document. In the letter, this candidate explained that she had worked doing very similar admin work for two years very successfully, but while on a lunch break in a park realized that she hated admin work and needed to move to Paris immediately. She quit on the spot and moved to Paris and loved living in France, but now she was back in the U.S. and needed a job. It is the only time I’ve read a cover letter that laid out, in explicit detail, why the candidate would not be happy to do the job for which they were applying.

8. The teacher

Interviewed a candidate for a position that was primarily teaching. At one point during the interview I needed to hand her off to a different person so that I could go teach, one of the things that she would have been doing if she got the job. I explained that’s where I was going and she laughed and said, “Oh, I totally understand. I just HATE teaching!”

9. The third choice

I was interviewing a candidate for an intellectual property attorney position at a federal government agency. A standard question is, “Why do you want to work here?” He made it clear that he would prefer private practice or a corporation and we were his third choice. He did not get a second interview.

10. The software developer

While doing phone screens for a junior software developer, we asked all the candidates, “Why are you interested in software development?” (or some similar phrasing).

One candidate answered, “I don’t know if I really am.” They did not get invited for an in-person interview.

11. The thief

I was doing induction for a small group of new starters, explaining to them our CRM system and the customer information database behind it. From one guy I got a lot of technical questions — How is the data formatted? How easy is to run queries locally? Can the results be stored on a flash drive? — so asked outright, “Why do you want to know?”

Back came the reply: “I’ve downloaded the customer databases of my last three jobs ready to start my own company in future. I just wanted to know how simple it’ll be to do that here before I leave.”

I finished my CRM presentation and left via the HR office. The guy was escorted out of the building 20 minutes later.

candidate lied about the dates of a job

A reader writes:

I know you say that it’s not a big deal for candidates to leave short jobs off their resumes. But I have an applicant who left a short job off their employment application and changed the dates on their prior position to hide that time gap. (For example, on the application, their resume lists their present job as starting in April while their past job ended in April. But the past job actually ended in January, and there was a different job they omitted that was from January through April.)

I’m asking the applicant for an explanation, but I’m very uneasy about the judgment that the applicant showed in misrepresenting their employment dates regardless. Should I even proceed with this applicant’s candidacy?

I answer this question — and two others — over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.

Other questions I’m answering there today include:

  • Employee refuses to save her work and threatens to sue us when we tell her to
  • Should I tell a sales rep her social media rants lost my business?

how are students supposed to show they work well as part of a team, if group projects in school are so awful?

A reader writes:

I teach in a business school and previously worked in my industry. I’ve been an AAM reader for a long time.

I have seen you write about how group work in school projects is nothing like group work in the real world, and I’m not sure I totally agree. I have definitely worked with coworkers who slacked off or didn’t have the right skills, but there was no accountability, etc. I think getting some output from folks like this is actually a common challenge, which mirrors student work.

Anyway, regardless of my personal opinion, every single industry speaker we have says they want students who work well as part of a team. Hiring managers who come here tell us our students are all very technically skilled, so teamwork and initiative are the things that will make them stand out. So the question is, do you have any suggestions on how instructors can a) help students develop these skills, and b) do so in a way that lets students demonstrate them to employers (via resume, interview, career fair chats, etc.)?

One thing I’ve noticed in my years of teaching is that far fewer students have part-time jobs and such in high school (the emphasis on extracurriculars and obsession with college admissions seems to have taken its place) so where, 10 years ago, I would have told students they can highlight the part-time job where they went from server to shift lead to assistant manager, even if it has nothing to do with their professional field, now many have zero work experience at all.

Some common tools among instructors:
• Team contracts to set norms about communication, meetings, division of work, etc.
• Dividing up the groupwork so each person turns in an individual portion and then combine them into a final product.
• Regular formative peer evaluations so I can address conflicts early in the semester instead of hearing about them during finals week.
• Regular meetings with each group so I can observe the group dynamic and attempt to surface issues.

If you were teaching a class of undergrads, what would you do?

It’s true that employers want people who can work well as part of a team, but group projects from school listed on a resume aren’t the primary way they’re assessing it. In practice, it’s much more commonly assessed through how the candidate comes across in an interview — are they a know-it-all or do they have a reasonable amount of humility? Do they talk about other people (teachers, fellow students, coworkers, whoever) respectfully? Are they forthcoming enough in conversation that you can picture collaborating with them or does it feel like pulling teeth to get any info from them? Do they seem engaged when they talk about work they’ve done? Do they have examples of conflicts (even minor ones) they’ve encountered, and how did they approach those?

I can almost guarantee you that the person who was a drag to work with on group projects in school is painting themself on their resume as an active, helpful member of those teams, and interviewers generally know that.

That doesn’t mean the tools you listed aren’t useful ones (although I would be interested in students’ feedback on them in practice — and whether it really does solve the problem of one or two people feeling like they end up carrying the rest of the team). I just don’t think they’re terribly useful to employers and are often incredibly frustrating to conscientious students, who end up feeling like they have to babysit their team members when they’re supposed to be learning. (And sure, that’s its own kind of lesson! But I don’t think it’s the one you’re setting out to teach to the class as a whole.)