I don’t want gifts at work, employee doesn’t wash his hands, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. I don’t want employees to give me gifts

I’ve just switched employers and am now heading up a company’s legal division. I value your advice to gift down, not up, but do you have any scripts on how and when to communicate this expectation to subordinates? I don’t want to sound like, “Listen up, peons! Spare me your humble offerings.” Nor do I want to say it so early that it feels like I was expecting them to shower gifts at my feet if I didn’t say something. And if someone ignores me and gives me a gift anyway, how should I handle that? I’m working remotely for a region of the country that’s very different culturally from my own, and I don’t want to inadvertently insult people or harm relationships with my excellent team in a place where gifting seems to be a part of the culture. For what it’s worth, I’m coming from government, where no-gifting-up expectations are clearly set in policy.

Are you mostly worried about this happening with year-end holiday gifts? If so, speak up in late November or early December and say something like, “This is the time of year when people think about holiday gifts, so I want to say up-front that just doing your jobs well is enough of a gift for me. Please spend your money on your family or yourself, and know that I’m grateful to have each of you on our team.” (It’s less weird if you can say this in the context of some other holiday-related announcement, so that it’s not its own stand-alone declaration.)

If you’re seeing a culture around things like birthday gifts, talk to whoever seems to organize them and explain that you don’t want them to organize something for you — and it’s okay to explicitly say, “I feel strongly that no one should feel even minor pressure to buy a gift for anyone in their chain of command.”

But if you do receive a gift from an employee despite this, it’s okay to accept it graciously as long as it’s not extravagantly expensive. You don’t want to make anyone feel bad (which will happen if you refuse to accept a gift); you just want to ensure no one feels obligated to buy you presents. If it is extravagant, you can say, “This was very kind of you! I feel really strongly that managers shouldn’t accept gifts because it can lead to people feeling pressured to provide them — I know you didn’t, but I worry about creating that culture. So I’m going to give this back to you so you can give it a loved one or use it yourself. The only gift I need from you is your good work, and I already have that!”

Also, aside from gifts to you, be alert for signs that anyone might feel pressured to contribute to gifts for others. If gifting is a big part of this office’s culture, I can almost guarantee that there are people who would prefer to keep their money — and that they’d be grateful if you worked to shift that piece of the culture once you’re more settled in.

2. My employee doesn’t wash his hands after using the bathroom

I am the head of a small organization. I have two-in office employees. We do work in-office most days, and our office space has a bathroom. All of us can hear when the toilet flushes, sink is running, etc. One of my employees clearly does not wash his hands after using the restroom — he’s in there only briefly, and the toilet flushes mere seconds before he emerges from the bathroom. This is gross.

If I put up a “wash your hands” sign, it will be awkward, given there are only three of us here and we work closely together and a new sign would be very pointed and unusual. I’m not sure a sign would change the behavior anyway. Do I need to have a personal conversation with the employee about this (also awkward)? Do I need to resign myself to vigorous hand sanitizing and Lysol spraying? How do I get over the thought of touching the copier, the stapler, the doorknobs, after my employee has, while knowing what he previously touched?

I am sorry to deliver this news because it is gross, but a significant portion of the people walking in around in the world don’t wash their hands after using the bathroom, and you are touching things they have touched all the time when you’re out in public. Signs won’t stop it. You just need to know that’s how people are, and adjust your own behavior accordingly.

(It would be different if you were in food service; then you’d have an obligation to talk to him.)

3. Resumes that include info about gender identity or sexual orientation

This is admittedly, less of a question, and more of something I get concerned about as a manager reviewing resumes. I was advised by a peer to submit this to you in hopes that some hopeful applicants might see it and be more cautious.

I often have resumes from younger individuals that specifically advertise their gender identity or sexuality. While we are a progressive workplace, with many in-house accommodations and built-in support structures that allow team members to present as the gender and be open about the sexuality they are most comfortable with as they are comfortable expressing. That being said, we are located in a less progressive state, where it’s becoming increasingly fraught (while still illegal to discriminate against LGBTQ+ folk in the workplace).

It’s not my place to coach applicants who aren’t my staff, but I wish sometimes I could advise them to be a little more cautious about openly sharing this information — especially at a stage of the hiring process where a less scrupulous person could still choose to discard their resume under the guise of a more “acceptable” reason.

Most often, candidates who do this are doing it intentionally because they want to screen out employers and hiring managers where it’s more likely to be an issue. It’s a way to screen for inclusive workplaces. It’s not infallible, of course, but it’s better than doing no screening and hoping for the best.

4. How much notice should I give before retiring?

How much notice should I give before retiring? Is a standard two weeks enough?

For context, I just got a big promotion in December and I have been leading a newly formed team since January. I am only 54 so I think this move is going to be a surprise, and I feel bad about leaving the team at a formative time. I also have a great relationship with my boss and I hate to put her in a difficult position. But for a variety of reasons, I’ve determined that retiring in September is the right thing for me to do.

Given the circumstances, is it better to give my boss a heads-up well in advance, or should I just stick with the standard two weeks?

It comes down entirely to this: do you trust your boss and your employer not to push you out earlier than you want to leave? And if they did, how much of a problem would it be for you?

If you think that they’ll be grateful for early notice and won’t push you out earlier than September (or if you wouldn’t mind much if they did), go ahead and give them a couple of months of notice if you feel comfortable doing that. But if you don’t trust them on that, or if it would be disastrous if they did, stick with two weeks. You’d be giving two weeks for other types of departures, so it’s not a terrible crime to do that here too.

Keep in mind, too, that “push you out earlier than September” doesn’t have to mean something dramatic like they blow up and tell you to leave immediately. It can look more like initial gratitude for the heads-up, followed a few weeks later by, “We found the perfect replacement but she would need to start immediately so let’s set your end date for sooner” or, “Since we’re about to launch a bunch of new projects, it doesn’t make sense to have you start them and then leave soon after, so it makes more sense to move your ending date up.” I would be particularly concerned about those since you’re still pretty new in the position and, in their eyes, may still be getting acclimated to it.

Related:
how much notice should you give when you resign?

5. Interviewing in the third trimester of pregnancy

I’m currently job searching for a fall start date. Job searching in the spring for a fall start is normal in my industry, although some companies will make offers in March and others might not make offers until June. I find myself in a sticky situation with timelines, because I am in my third trimester of pregnancy, and due in six to eight weeks. I look pregnant, but most people who see me think I am five or maybe six months pregnant — so I seem earlier in the pregnancy than I am.

My current job is a one-year position ending in September, but I will be able to take my full maternity leave at this job. My plan is to return to it for one month before moving to a new job, should I land one. I have had some great first round virtual interviews, with two different kinds of responses — some companies want me to come in ASAP for in-person interviews, and some want to wait until late May or early June for in-person interviews (when I will likely be giving birth/freshly postpartum).

For companies that want to interview me ASAP, I am considering volunteering information during the interview about completing my leave at the current job and not needing a delayed start or maternity leave from the new job, because people may not realize that is my timeline based on my appearance. Is this a good idea? I know there is no way to avoid implicit bias now that I’m visibly pregnant, so I’m hoping to get ahead of the timeline concerns that may pop up. And for companies that seem inclined to take things slow, is there anything I can say without disclosing my pregnancy that would help them realize I cannot wait that long to interview? I did not say anything in the interviews when I was told this because I did not know how to respond, so I’m afraid I will now look panicked or unprofessional.

I’m fairly junior in my field and many women in the field choose to delay pregnancy for 5+ years beyond where I am to avoid being thought of as unserious. But I do love my career, I am incredibly serious about it, and it is my passion. I am afraid that my otherwise strong candidacy will be overlooked due to my pregnancy.

Yes, for the companies interviewing you in-person, it’s smart to share your plans and timeline because they’re going to be reluctant to ask (since they can’t legally factor your pregnancy into the hiring decision).

For the companies moving more slowly, since you know you won’t be able to interview in late May/early June, you might as well put it on the table now: share that you’re pregnant and when you’re due and that you’re planning to finish your leave before you’d be starting with them. They might not be willing or able to interview you any earlier, but they might.

the infiltrator, the borrowed research, and other people who were much too honest in job interviews

In the recent post on people applying for jobs that were clearly at odds with what they wanted to do, one theme that came up over and over was candidates who were way too honest in interviews. Here are 11 of my favorite stories you shared that fit that category.

1. The competition

A candidate once wrote in their cover letter that their dream was to one day work for [our competitor] and they saw us a an important stepping stone to getting there.

2. The mole

I was working for a very progressive Democratic candidate’s campaign, hiring a finance director. Someone with two decades of experience working in Republican offices applied. I decided to phone screen him just out of curiosity, and when I asked him why the switch to the other side of the aisle, he said his politics hadn’t changed – he just wanted the inside scoop on what we were working on.

3. The borrowed research

A presentation by an applicant for a faculty position in computer science began poorly when the fellow couldn’t get his slides to work. The candidacy really tanked when, following the research presentation, he answered a question about the material with, “Well, I don’t know. This isn’t actually my research, but I thought it was interesting.”

4. The wrong answer

I used to interview people for software quality engineering roles, as distinct from software engineering — different job responsibilities, different expectations, and it was always useful to make that clear right at the start to smoke out people who were just going to try to switch in six months.

I got on one interview call (at 2 am my time, mind you — global company), started right off with, “Why do you want to be a quality engineer?” and he responded “I don’t.”

Shortest interview I’ve ever done.

5. The aspiring film director

I was trying for my first career-type job out of college. I was recently graduated communications major with a concentration in film production and was interviewing to be an office manager at an advertising firm that did a lot of commercial shoots. The second person to come in the room to interview me asked, “So, describe your dream job to me.”

Friends, I did not know this was meant to be a “describe the job you’re applying for or maybe where you’d be in five years” question. I proceeded to talk at length about being a feature film director.

I did not get that job.

I also didn’t end up even getting into the film/TV industry, but I am all the happier for it.

6. The infiltrator

I work in entertainment. About 10 years ago, I was at a production company that prided itself on connecting with its fans and would take a meeting with pretty much anyone. One person we met with asked us for an internship and was very clear that he wanted to be part of the company because he was not a fan of our work. Our sub-genre was not his preferred sub-genre, and so he planned to infiltrate the company and take us down from the inside.

We explained that this wasn’t the way to get more of his preferred content made and wouldn’t be taking him on. He was shocked.

Years later, the company did go under, but not because of him.

7. The Francophile

My favorite cover letter I’ve ever reviewed was for a run-of-the-mill admin assistant temp position at a U.S.-based study abroad provider for college students. While there were other teams in the company that had lots of travel and excitement, this position was helping process application materials and answering phones. We tried to be up-front about this in our listing and our screening/interviews, as sometimes people would apply to “get a foot in the door” and then leave when they realized we needed them to commit to this very unexciting work.

We received an application with a two-page cover letter that read more like a personal essay than a professional document. In the letter, this candidate explained that she had worked doing very similar admin work for two years very successfully, but while on a lunch break in a park realized that she hated admin work and needed to move to Paris immediately. She quit on the spot and moved to Paris and loved living in France, but now she was back in the U.S. and needed a job. It is the only time I’ve read a cover letter that laid out, in explicit detail, why the candidate would not be happy to do the job for which they were applying.

8. The teacher

Interviewed a candidate for a position that was primarily teaching. At one point during the interview I needed to hand her off to a different person so that I could go teach, one of the things that she would have been doing if she got the job. I explained that’s where I was going and she laughed and said, “Oh, I totally understand. I just HATE teaching!”

9. The third choice

I was interviewing a candidate for an intellectual property attorney position at a federal government agency. A standard question is, “Why do you want to work here?” He made it clear that he would prefer private practice or a corporation and we were his third choice. He did not get a second interview.

10. The software developer

While doing phone screens for a junior software developer, we asked all the candidates, “Why are you interested in software development?” (or some similar phrasing).

One candidate answered, “I don’t know if I really am.” They did not get invited for an in-person interview.

11. The thief

I was doing induction for a small group of new starters, explaining to them our CRM system and the customer information database behind it. From one guy I got a lot of technical questions — How is the data formatted? How easy is to run queries locally? Can the results be stored on a flash drive? — so asked outright, “Why do you want to know?”

Back came the reply: “I’ve downloaded the customer databases of my last three jobs ready to start my own company in future. I just wanted to know how simple it’ll be to do that here before I leave.”

I finished my CRM presentation and left via the HR office. The guy was escorted out of the building 20 minutes later.

candidate lied about the dates of a job

A reader writes:

I know you say that it’s not a big deal for candidates to leave short jobs off their resumes. But I have an applicant who left a short job off their employment application and changed the dates on their prior position to hide that time gap. (For example, on the application, their resume lists their present job as starting in April while their past job ended in April. But the past job actually ended in January, and there was a different job they omitted that was from January through April.)

I’m asking the applicant for an explanation, but I’m very uneasy about the judgment that the applicant showed in misrepresenting their employment dates regardless. Should I even proceed with this applicant’s candidacy?

I answer this question — and two others — over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here.

Other questions I’m answering there today include:

  • Employee refuses to save her work and threatens to sue us when we tell her to
  • Should I tell a sales rep her social media rants lost my business?

how are students supposed to show they work well as part of a team, if group projects in school are so awful?

A reader writes:

I teach in a business school and previously worked in my industry. I’ve been an AAM reader for a long time.

I have seen you write about how group work in school projects is nothing like group work in the real world, and I’m not sure I totally agree. I have definitely worked with coworkers who slacked off or didn’t have the right skills, but there was no accountability, etc. I think getting some output from folks like this is actually a common challenge, which mirrors student work.

Anyway, regardless of my personal opinion, every single industry speaker we have says they want students who work well as part of a team. Hiring managers who come here tell us our students are all very technically skilled, so teamwork and initiative are the things that will make them stand out. So the question is, do you have any suggestions on how instructors can a) help students develop these skills, and b) do so in a way that lets students demonstrate them to employers (via resume, interview, career fair chats, etc.)?

One thing I’ve noticed in my years of teaching is that far fewer students have part-time jobs and such in high school (the emphasis on extracurriculars and obsession with college admissions seems to have taken its place) so where, 10 years ago, I would have told students they can highlight the part-time job where they went from server to shift lead to assistant manager, even if it has nothing to do with their professional field, now many have zero work experience at all.

Some common tools among instructors:
• Team contracts to set norms about communication, meetings, division of work, etc.
• Dividing up the groupwork so each person turns in an individual portion and then combine them into a final product.
• Regular formative peer evaluations so I can address conflicts early in the semester instead of hearing about them during finals week.
• Regular meetings with each group so I can observe the group dynamic and attempt to surface issues.

If you were teaching a class of undergrads, what would you do?

It’s true that employers want people who can work well as part of a team, but group projects from school listed on a resume aren’t the primary way they’re assessing it. In practice, it’s much more commonly assessed through how the candidate comes across in an interview — are they a know-it-all or do they have a reasonable amount of humility? Do they talk about other people (teachers, fellow students, coworkers, whoever) respectfully? Are they forthcoming enough in conversation that you can picture collaborating with them or does it feel like pulling teeth to get any info from them? Do they seem engaged when they talk about work they’ve done? Do they have examples of conflicts (even minor ones) they’ve encountered, and how did they approach those?

I can almost guarantee you that the person who was a drag to work with on group projects in school is painting themself on their resume as an active, helpful member of those teams, and interviewers generally know that.

That doesn’t mean the tools you listed aren’t useful ones (although I would be interested in students’ feedback on them in practice — and whether it really does solve the problem of one or two people feeling like they end up carrying the rest of the team). I just don’t think they’re terribly useful to employers and are often incredibly frustrating to conscientious students, who end up feeling like they have to babysit their team members when they’re supposed to be learning. (And sure, that’s its own kind of lesson! But I don’t think it’s the one you’re setting out to teach to the class as a whole.)

my boss punished me for an HR investigation, manager keeps firing people without any warning, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. My boss punished me for an HR investigation on her way out the door

A little over a year ago, I started in a new workplace. Things seemed great at first — much less stress and a more regular schedule than my previous job, great coworkers, and when I had a significant health scare requiring multiple surgeries (I’m fine now) shortly after starting, my manager was really supportive. As the honeymoon period waned, however, it became clear that there were a lot of serious boundary issues with our manager — lots of “we’re a family” style issues. Inappropriate, boundary-crossing things were being said, things that made a lot of jaws hit the floor when recounted. Long story short is that I ended up reaching out to HR, with the support and knowledge of most of my peer-level coworkers. The hope from me had been she would get coaching around professionalism (like not asking invasive personal/medical/sexual questions of employees during staff meetings).

There was an investigation, and my manager sort of spiraled. She revoked several privileges (like flexible work) suddenly (for most people, but notably not for everyone). And she would lash out emotionally about perceived slights, and made at least one person cry. Based on the way she channeled her aggression, it seemed like she was working through the people she suspected of reporting her.

Fast forward a few months, and she announced that she was leaving. I was already scheduled to take an approved vacation during her last week in the office. When I returned, she was gone and she had submitted my annual review in my absence, which included rating me as “approaching expectations” (as opposed to meeting) across multiple categories, saying that my “interpersonal conflicts are a distraction to [me] and the team” and that I don’t take constructive criticism well. This was about a week ago.

I think she received some kind of confirmation that I reported her, and I am pissed. I feel like I have no recourse because she is gone. If she was still here I would ask, in good faith, for examples, because I try to be open to the possibility that there is room for improvement. But I have never had an “interpersonal conflict” with anyone at work except for my decision to report to HR, and I cannot think of a single instance of criticism she provided, constructive or otherwise!

Do you think there’s anywhere to go with this? I feel like this was retaliatory, but she doesn’t work here anymore. And I worry that bringing it up with upper management will just be held against me. Do I just need to breathe deeply, move on, and try to start fresh with a new manager when/if they ever hire someone?

Go back to HR and say this: “I’m concerned that Linda’s annual review of me was intentionally retaliatory because of my report about her to you. She had seemed very upset ever since the investigation, began revoking various privileges for people, and lashed out at multiple team members. The review is so out of sync with the feedback she’s given me previously that — with some of it objectively incorrect — that I’m concerned it was retaliation for my report and the subsequent investigation. I’m not sure how to handle this since she’s now gone, but I’m concerned about having this in my personnel file when it’s false.”

Related:
my boss retaliated against me in my performance evaluation after I talked to H.R.

2. My manager keeps firing people without any warning

My job employs a lot of part-timers, mostly younger people with little to no previous work experience. I’m one of several supervisors. Our main job is to support the part-timers, but our manager regularly asks for our input on things like hiring, policy changes, training, etc.

My manager is normally very good, and I’ve described her as the best boss I’ve ever had many times. She’s great at keeping multiple plates spinning, training new people effectively, project management, and giving good feedback. Unfortunately, the late-2024 federal funding cuts have hit us hard and compounded with other problems to result in my department running on a skeleton crew for months now. My manager has gotten noticeably more snappish, impatient, and overworked as a result. I’m full-time and grateful to be employed at all, especially since I’ve been looking for new jobs with no interviews for about a year, so I’ve been grinning, bearing it, and repeating, “That’s what the money’s for” to myself when she occasionally treats me somewhat unfairly out of stress.

However, she’s fired multiple part-timers over email with no warning since January. I think it’s unfair, arbitrary, and unnecessary. All of the people who were fired had attendance issues that are fireable offenses, but there are other workers with worse attendance who haven’t been fired because they’ve been here longer and/or my manager feels bad for them. I do too, but my manager has had months of in-person and email conversations with one employee warning her that she needs to hit a minimum amount of shifts with no improvement. The people who were fired got, at most, a vague hint over email that we needed them to shore up their attendance. There was never a face-to-face conversation with our manager making it clear that their jobs were on the line if they kept skipping shifts.

Do you have any ideas for ways I could pump the brakes on this fire-by-email trend, keeping in mind I have no hard power here? And should I start trying to warn employees with shaky attendance that our manager might fire them with little to no warning? On one hand, I want to keep out of the line of fire and just get my work done without making my boss think I’m trying to undermine her. On the other hand, I think our casual office culture has lulled some part-timers into a false sense of security, and these are undergrads without much work experience who might not realize that skipping shifts or even entire weeks of work is a lot more serious than skipping class. On a third hand, I’m busy enough as it is and about to get busier, so I don’t really want to throw yet another responsibility into the mix.

Talk to your manager! It shouldn’t take a huge amount of capital if you approach it as wanting what’s best for the organization, rather than taking issue with her judgment. Frame it as, “I know we’ve had to fire a bunch of people for attendance issues lately, and I think part of the problem is that we have so many people without much work experience who don’t yet understand what a big deal it is. Could we more explicitly warn people when their attendance is an issue? It might let us solve the issues without ultimately having to fire them, which would help lower the strain from the turnover.”

But also, yes — as a supervisor you should definitely be talking to employees about attendance expectations, even if your manager isn’t. You know she has specific attendance expectations (as most jobs would!), whether or not she’s going to talk to them about it — so if you see people running afoul of those, you should name it and let them know it’s a problem. You don’t need to say, “Jane might fire you with little to no warning”; you can say, “Reliably showing up when you’re scheduled is a requirement for keeping your job, and it’s something we do fire people over.” As a supervisor, you have the standing — and, I’d argue, the obligation — to have those conversations.

Related:
should you warn an employee before firing her?

3. I’m continually passed over for the higher-level responsibilities we discussed when I was hired

I have been in my role as office manager and EA to the CEO for six years. Prior to taking this role, I was second-in-charge at my workplace, and functionally in a COO role. I took a step down when accepting my current role as it’s a more interesting industry and allowed better flexibility.

When taking the role, the CEO and COO talked about training me into the COO role, particularly as she was planning on taking long service leave. However, every time I have asked to learn parts of her role, it’s been pushed back or ignored (e.g., “oh yes, maybe,” then nothing).

This week I asked if I would be covering her role while she is on long service leave and was told that another team member would be doing it. The CEO seemed suprised that I was interested in doing it. I have definitely made it clear in all my reviews that I’m interested in getting back into a more executive role.

I consistently receive positive feedback on my work from the CEO and COO. I regularly ask if there is anything I need to improve, and am always told they are very happy. I’m not sure what to do now. I like where I work, but it seems like I will not be given the chance to improve my career.

You need to ask her about it directly: “When I was hired, you and Jane talked about training me into the COO role since I was doing that role in my previous job. Is that still something you’re open to and, if so, what kind of timeline do you envision for that happening?”

Since it’s been six years with no movement on it, it’s possible that she doesn’t even remember those conversations. If that’s the case, just saying in your review that you’re interested in moving back in that direction won’t necessarily solve it; it will be more effective to very clearly lay out what the original discussion was and ask if it’s still on the table.

It’s possible that it’s not, for all sorts of reasons (anything from they’ve pigeonholed you into the job you’re now in to their thinking on who they’d want in that role having changed in the years since the original discussion). But if that’s the case, you need to find out so you can decide if you want to stay under those circumstances or if you’d be better off looking outside the organization.

4. Glassdoor is making you link your account with Indeed

Remember how we were so annoyed a while back when Glassdoor started making you add your real contact information to keep your account? Apparently now they have been bought by Indeed, and they are forcing you to connect your accounts. I didn’t even have an Indeed account, and it wouldn’t allow me to log into Glassdoor until I made one. You then have to search through settings to opt out of letting company “job posters” on Indeed have access to your Glassdoor account information! It’s opt OUT!

Clearly some boneheaded exec either has it in for Glassdoor as a concept or really does not understand the point of it. I’m going to have to delete my account and make a new one under a fake name now. Why do they have to make everything terrible??

What the actual F. Anonymity is essential for Glassdoor to work so what a terrible and nonsensical policy that drains Glassdoor of most of its utility.

5. Can I ask for a start date two months away?

I work in an industry where giving a month’s notice is expected from managers. After years of working in a very intense job, I’m considering a move to greener pastures. But wondering how to negotiate the latest date possible. If possible, I’d love to have a month off between jobs to truly rest, recharge, and see my extended family. Doing so would give employers two months wait for my start date. Is that possible and how do I ask without sounding as burnt out as I feel?

In a lot of jobs, you can ask for a start date two months out. Some will have the flexility to agree to that and some won’t, but it’s a thing people ask for, particular with more senior-level jobs. You’d simply say, “I’m expected to give my employer a month’s notice, and I’m hoping to take some time off to recharge before starting with you. I can be flexible if needed, but would a start date of X work on your end?”

Related:
how do I negotiate my start date at a new job?

asking people to do a one-week work trial before offering them the job

A reader writes:

I saw an ad for a job at a company that says they ask candidates to spend 3-5 paid days working with them before they’ll make an offer. Their ads reads, “Spending 3-5 days in person working together on a real problem is so much higher signal than interviews could ever produce.” They also say that almost every candidate they hire says they love the experience and wouldn’t want to take a job without a work trial in the future because they learned so much about how the organization operates.

Curious for your thoughts on this. It seems like a great way to screen for desperate folks without current jobs? Or is it just obvious rage-bait?

Well, on one hand, of course you learn more about candidates by working with them for five days (and they learn more about you) than you do in an interview. In a vacuum, it makes perfect sense! Some people interview really well but aren’t so good once you see them on the job. And from the candidate’s point of view, some managers sound great in an interview and turn out to be nightmares once you’re on the job.

The problem, though, is that our system isn’t set up for this. It’s not realistic for most people to be able to take off three to five days from their job (out of whatever limited vacation time they have for the year), and possibly on short notice, to do this. If someone is unemployed, it gets easier — but a ton of candidates will have to have jobs, and this isn’t a reasonable expectation to put on them.

Plus, imagine that lots of companies started doing this, and that you’d have to do multiple work trials before one ended in an offer. You could easily blow through your full amount of vacation time for the year, or even exceed it, just doing work trials.

I do think it’s a great idea, for some jobs, to ask finalists at the very end of the process to complete a sample work project and pay them for it. I’ve done that before, and you learn a ton that you didn’t necessarily see in the interview and it can really differentiate your best candidates. But that’s a much lower burden than asking someone to spend a week with you.

Interviews aren’t a perfect system — far from it. But week-long work trials aren’t a reasonable solution for most people.

update: can I take care of my baby during the workday if my job is undemanding?

Remember the letter-writer wondering if she could take care of her baby during the workday since her job was undemanding? Here’s the update.

Your response gave me a lot to think about, and ultimately I realized that I was completely bored by my job and needed something with more challenge and growth potential. I decided to take a transfer to a more high powered team. It was a lateral move with no pay increase and more work, but a ton of skill building and potential for growth into other higher paying cross-disciplinary teams. I took the transfer about halfway through my pregnancy so I was able to onboard and finish my training before maternity leave. Infant care spots are incredible few and expensive here, so I took a short leave and negotiated a part-time, completely flexible work schedule for when I came back from leave so I could be at home with my baby for the first year.

Professionally this has been the right move for me, and I did fine — some recognition, a few high visibility projects, and good performance reviews. Now two years out, I’m really happy with my decision and love my team and the work I’m doing.

Personally that first year was rough — I was always working or taking care of my baby (something the comments warned me about!) and the stress combined with the isolation of mothering a newborn took a toll on my mental health. I’m glad I did it — I didn’t have great options for infant care, and we made the best of a tough spot. But if I had to do it again, I would try and prioritize my rest. I also realized that the reason I had been able to do my job efficiently was because I had been relying on my memory and executive functioning at work, and new motherhood and lack of sleep made those disappear overnight. That first year was definitely a lesson in grace and lowering expectations.

Thanks for all your advice and the advice of your commenters!

my coworkers leave dirty dishes in the sink and expect me to clean them up

A reader writes:

I work at a creative company with 50+ people on staff, about 30 of whom come into the office regularly. It’s a great place to work overall, but I’ll be honest, I’m in a bit of a humbling professional moment. After being laid off from my more senior role earlier this year, I took on a junior position here because, well, times are hard and you do what you have to do.

Part of my current role involves managing the studio space, which includes keeping our small kitchenette tidy and running the dishwasher. I actually don’t mind this, I run the washer every night before I leave and empty it in the morning so there’s always space for dishes. What I do mind is that a subset of my colleagues continue to leave their dirty dishes and cups piled up in the sink despite the fact that a perfectly functional dishwasher is right there.

I’ve already sent a group message asking people to put their dishes directly in the dishwasher instead of leaving them in the sink, and for a while it helped, but old habits are creeping back. I’m now regularly cleaning up after adults who absolutely know better.

Truthfully, I know that cleaning the kitchen is technically part of my job. But having spent years in more senior roles, there’s something that stings about feeling like the office maid for people who can’t be bothered with basic courtesy. I’m aware that might be an ego thing on my part, and I’m trying to keep that in mind, but it’s hard.

My question is: how do I communicate, clearly and professionally, that this behavior needs to stop, without coming across as either a pushover or someone who’s overstepping? Is there a way to escalate this that doesn’t make me look like I’m making a big deal out of dishes? And is there anything I can do to manage my own frustration in the meantime?

This hinges on whether cleaning up other people’s dishes is supposed to be part of your job. In some offices it might be, with the idea that they want other people to be able to get back to their own jobs more quickly or not have to take time out between back-to-back meetings and/or they’ve accepted the reality that if they don’t specifically make it part of someone’s job, the kitchen quickly becomes chaos.

If it’s an intentional part of your job … well, then it’s the job, even if stings. If that’s the case, you have a few options: you can work on seeing it as perfectly dignified work, even though it’s different from the work you’re used to, or you can pitch your boss on making it not part of the job (although that may be challenging if they specifically want someone charged with it so that other people can back to their own jobs more quickly), or you can decide you’re not interested in a job that includes this element and look elsewhere. But if it’s genuinely part of the role and not your colleagues just being thoughtless, you’ve got to accept that as the reality of this position and try not to stew over it.

On the other hand, if it’s not supposed to be part of your job — if people are supposed to deal with their own dishes and you just run the dishwasher at the end of the day and keep the rest of the space clean — that’s different. If that’s the situation … well, you have a battle ahead of you. That’s frequently the case with office kitchens, which often suffer from the tragedy of the commons (where no one feels like it’s really their responsibility to take care of a shared resource). You’re looking for a way to tell people “cut this out” that will actually get through to them and doesn’t involve you melting down in a fit of rage, but as generations of people annoyed by messy office kitchens will tell you, there is no such magic string of words. Instead, realistically, your choices are:

* Continue the cycle where you remind people, they get better for a while, and then they backslide.

* Enlist someone who has the power to lay down the law with your coworkers about this (which they may or may not be willing to do in a way that really has teeth — and in practice, they might not be inclined to hassle a top performer who left a mug in the sink while running between meetings).

* Convince someone above you that the only way to solve this is with more extreme measures, like letting you throw out any dishes that are left in the sink at the end of the day, moving all the dishes left at the end of the day to a “dirty dishes box” where they will eventually get thrown out if not reclaimed, or switching the kitchen to only disposable dishes and utensils (possible, but they’d need to agree the problem is bad enough to warrant that, and there’s an environmental cost to doing that).

* Find a way to make peace with it (even if that’s just deciding that annoying as it is, you like the money you get for dealing with it).

weight loss discussion during a business meeting, boss won’t tell me how I can get a higher rating, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Leadership discussing weight loss during an accommodations meeting

I’m writing about a conversation that happened a few months ago in my workplace that is still bothering me, and I’m not sure if there’s anywhere to escalate it or if I need to keep working on letting it go.

I work in public service for a small city and am part of a union. I was in a meeting with the head of HR (who reports to the mayor), my boss (the director of our organization), and the union rep. The meeting was set up to discuss a medical accommodation I was asking for. I self-identify as a fat woman, but the accommodation in question had nothing to do with that; it was about mental health.

Everything was going fine, everyone agreed to the accommodation, we had it all in writing, etc. But towards the end of the meeting, the conversation went off the rails when somebody (I think the union rep, but I’m not sure) mentioned that they’re cold all the time because they lost 50 pounds. The conversation went on like this:

Head of HR: Congratulations, how did you do it?
Union rep: I do the shots.
Director: I am also always cold because I did the same thing and I also lost 50 pounds. I’m trying to reach my goal weight after baby and then intend to go off the meds.
Head of HR: Wow, you guys look fantastic.

And so on. By this point I had tuned out.

I found this topic wildly inappropriate and kind of offensive for leadership to be talking about in front of their employee, fat or not, especially when asking for a medical accommodation. I just kind of tuned out at the time, but it’s still bothering me that someone who is leading the HR department would bring that up with their employees, and that other people in leadership would continue the conversation.

I don’t know if there’s anywhere else to escalate this or complain about it, though. The next person up from both of these people is the mayor, and I can’t complain to my boss about the union rep since my boss was part of the problem. Is there anyone else I can complain to, and is it even worth it or should I just continue to try to let it go?

I get why it bothered you but yeah, you should let it go. People should be more aware of how they talk about bodies and dieting in work situations — well, in all situations, really — and especially at meetings that are on completely different topics, but it’s a reality of our culture that it comes up in all sorts of situations anyway. To them, they were just chatting, and it’s not inherently inappropriate for them to chat at the end of a meeting where the main topic had already been taken care of. Your objection is closer to (very legitimate) personal preference than to “an obvious rule has been violated and something should be done.”

2. My boss won’t tell me how I can get a higher performance rating

At the beginning of 2025, I, along with about 200 other people at my large organization, joined a brand new team to build and implement a huge new piece of software. With the project, I also took the opportunity to join a team that has a different focus than my old team. This meant that I had to learn an additional huge piece of software, gain programming skills with very little prior programming experience, and do light project management with at least a dozen vendors. I crushed all of my deadlines, and managers on other teams regularly reached out to my boss with praise for me.

I gave myself the highest possible rating on my annual self-review (“exceeds expectations”) and laid out plenty of supporting documentation. I sat down with my boss, who enthusiastically agreed with all of my points … and bumped me down to a “meets expectations.” Because my org has forced rankings in the past, I was prepared for this possibility. He went on to clarify (without my prompting) that the org did not force rankings this year and he appreciated me meeting all of the challenging expectations for my new role. I asked him how I could have exceeded expectations for 2025, and he rambled on about “it was a hard year for everybody” and “it would have been hard for anybody to get an exceeds.” That wasn’t really an answer, so I asked how I could exceed for this year. He went on about how impressed he was that I met the high standards for my role, then asked “do you think I’m being too harsh?” I replied, “Harshness isn’t the issue, but it’s disappointing to be told I didn’t meet certain criteria without getting examples of what that criteria might be.” He then explained that he doesn’t like providing targets for exceeding expectations because then “that becomes the standard” and “people get disappointed when they don’t meet it”!

This was a week ago, and I’m having a hard time letting it go. In nearly 15 years at this org, this is the first time that a boss couldn’t either provide ideas for improvement or explain that I missed the cutoff during a forced rankings year (I’m generally a chill employee, and I think I get picked for that because my managers know it won’t make me melt down). The project lasts for at least two more years, so there are loads of objective criteria for potential goal-setting. Am I bananapants for thinking that he’s unfairly managing based on vibes instead of fair, tangible criteria? I have a great relationship with my grandboss and am considering setting up time with her to talk about it, but is that too dramatic? What else can I do here?

Final notes: I’m the only woman reporting to this guy, and the rankings are tied to our annual raises.

You’re not off-base at all. He should be able to provide you with clear examples of what “exceeds expectations” would look like and why you’re not there yet, and if he can’t do that, you’re absolutely right to conclude that he’s managing by vibes rather than clear metrics. What’s more, your company should want managers to lay out clear metrics for “exceeds expectations” for a whole bunch of reasons — first and foremost that people are less likely to knock it out of the park if they don’t know what that would look like, but also because managers who leave that hazy are leaving the door wide open for the appearance (or the reality) of a whole bunch of kinds of discrimination, and the legal liability that goes along with that.

It would not be at all too dramatic to talk to your grandboss about this, particularly since you have a strong relationship with her. Frame it as a very reasonable desire to want to understand how your performance is assessed, why you’re not at “exceeds expectations currently,” and what you need to do differently to get there.

3. My job is posted for more than I earn

I just saw a job posting for my department, the same position as mine (because someone is leaving). The amount of pay listed is more than what I make. I have been here for 20+ years. What do I do?

Talk to your boss! “I saw the opening for the new X is posted at $Y. If that’s the current starting salary, I’d like to talk about adjusting my salary, which is currently below that, so that I’m not making less than someone brand new without my experience.”

It’s also possible that you shouldn’t just get a raise to $Y but instead should get a raise to something above $Y to reflect the amount of experience you have. I say “possible” rather than “definitely” because the number of years in a job doesn’t automatically equate to doing the work better, but it’s something you should at least be thinking about.

4. Do teachers own their lesson plans?

I’ve seen in your column before that anything you create for your job belongs to your company. Does that also apply to lesson plans written by teachers?

I teach 10th grade history. As you well know, teachers are ludicrously underpaid and one of the ways I supplement my income is by selling my lesson plans on a popular site for teachers. Is what I’m doing illegal? Can I get in trouble with my school if they realize?

My name isn’t attached to my online “store” but I suppose if one of my administrators took a thorough look at the site they could connect the lessons to what I do in my classroom.

Under copyright law, your school district owns your lesson plans because they’re deemed “work for hire” (work that you create in the scope of your employment) unless it has policies to the contrary (which it might, so you should check). Interestingly, before the Copyright Act of 1976, courts had generally assigned copyright for educational materials to teachers — but when the Copyright Act of 1976 passed, it didn’t contain a teacher exception.

But that doesn’t mean that you’d get in trouble with your school if they realize you’re selling them; it’s more likely they’d just tell you to stop.

5. How should I show I’ve had the same job in multiple locations?

I’ve had the same job title at the same company for the past two years, but in three different locations. My base location has remained City A, but I’ve been assigned to plants in different states for long durations. So since 2024, I’ve spent one year split between Plant B in City B and City A, and eight months entirely at Plant C in City C. All of these are in different states.

How should I show this in my resume? Right now I’m doing this-

MegaCo | City A
Teapot Controls Engineer | City A State, City B State, City C State |  2024 – Present
– Accomplishment
– Accomplishment

It’s fine to do it that way, but you probably don’t even need the “City A State, City B State, City C State” part and could just list it like this:

MegaCo | City A
Teapot Controls Engineer,  2024 – Present
– Accomplishment
– Accomplishment

The exception to that would be if the individual locations were significant in some way, like if it would strengthen your candidacy to show that you had experience in a specific location or type of location (such as one similar in important ways to the one where you were applying).

I’m terrible at receiving negative feedback — and am spiraling from my 360 review

A reader writes:

As part of a leadership development opportunity offered by my organization, I’ve been given the chance to participate in a 360 review process. For context, I report to a member of the C-suite and have been angling for a promotion (which would entail a new role basically being created for me), and the 360 was brought up by my supervisor and our CEO as a growth investment.

I consider myself to be very self aware, so most of the things that came up in the process are not surprising to me, but I’m also very sensitive to criticism, especially from higher-ups. I am very professional and am able to calmly hear the feedback when it’s given, but with this 360, I’m finding myself spiraling. I received the written summary and skimmed the positive, but have read and reread the criticisms. I’m devastated to see the critical feedback from C-suite members in particular, and now have a twofold challenge: one, how do I become better at hearing critical feedback without taking it so personally? And two, how do I get the most out of what is being billed as a leadership/growth opportunity and transform the critical elements of the 360 into something constructive?

Years ago, I was coaching a manager with a similar sensitivity to criticism, who was similarly upset about the feedback in a 360. Interestingly, when I read it through, the majority of what was in there was positive, but she couldn’t stop focusing on the (relatively small amount of) things people thought she could do to improve, and she felt like a failure. I asked her to take a yellow highlighter and highlight everything positive — which left her with a document that was about 90% yellow, which made it visually impossible for her to ignore the actual balance of the input her colleagues had offered, despite what her brain had been trying to do. She has told me in recent years that she still keeps that highlighted document as a reminder for herself.

Can you try something similar and see if that changes the way it’s landing with you? I’m sure you don’t think that you’re flawless or have no areas where you can grow, and if you can correctly place those areas within the broader context of all the things people say you do well, it generally gets a lot easier to feel comfortable with this type of document as a whole, and to see it realistically.

The other thing is: we all have areas where we can do better, and it’s actually a favor for people to be willing to tell you what those are! I know the whole “feedback is a gift” framing feels cheesy … but feedback really is a gift if you’re someone who wants to get better and better at what you do. I was going to add “as long as they offer it reasonably politely,” but I actually think even feedback that’s not diplomatically stated can be a gift, if you choose to see the value in hearing unvarnished input.

That’s true even when you disagree with the feedback — because, if nothing else, it gives you useful info about how you’re coming across to someone else. You might ultimately consider that info and decide it doesn’t matter, but it’s still valuable to have it.